With Galactica on the verge of falling apart, Admiral Adama readies the ship for what could be its final mission, as Baltar's Six warns that humanity's final chapter is near.
I loved the flashbacks, but what the hell was the significance of Lee trying to get the pigeon out of his house?
I thought for sure that Baltar wa going to join the others on the suicide misson. I think he still might. The Six in his head will probably convince him.
"Spins and turns, angles and curves. The shape of dreams, half remembered. Slip the (slippery?) bonds of earth and touch the face of perfection. A perfect face, a perfect lace. Find a perfect world for the the end of Kara Thrace. End of line."
I get that we're going to have a final confrontation with Cavil's cylons, but I still don't get a sense that we're going to get closure and that worries me.
Maybe Baltar will gather the remaining colonists to come aid BSG when things seem the darkest.
I feel like I'm expecting an answer to the angels and hopefully finding a home for the colonists. Despite Moore claiming his finale will not be what people expect, I'm still clinging to the hope we get those two things.
I don't really have much of a comment on this particular episode. I'm sure I'll have many comments next week. I don't know... the flashbacks didn't seem to offer much more than what we already knew, other than to actually see it all happen. I assume they will all have a meaning in the last two hours, I hope.
I'm sure not all of the questions we viewers have will be answered. And rightfully so. Some questions should remain partially unanswered. Like Kara Thrace, I bet we will not learn much more about her. We already know she is dead and what we see is an angel of her former self. I don't feel I need to know more about her other than why she is the harbinger of death. I think what Adam here at work said might be true. The hybrids (and Sam) have said that Kara will lead them all to their deaths. We as views may assume that the deaths are that of the humans but it almost seems that the deaths are associated with the Cylons. The claims by the hybrids never say who she will lead to their deaths, humans or Cylons?
I just don't see all of the questions being answered in the last 2 hours. I don't want it to be another information overload like the episode where Sam starts telling everyone about how the final five escaped Earth and made the skin jobs and resurrection technology.
One thing is for sure, we more than likely will not learn anything more about the Cylons. It appears to me that Ron Moore is leaving those answers for the TV movie, "The Plan", which is supposed to air in June 2009. A big portion of answers into the whole grand scheme of things is supposed to be answered in this movie, which explains the Cylon's plan from the Cylon point of view. I heard somewhere that the reason the movie was done was so the story could have been more thoroughly told. So even though the show ends this coming Friday, we will have to wait ubtil June before a lot more questions can be answered.
Ugh, I think I need some kind of answer to shapeshifting reality effecting "projections" that some of the characters, especially Baltar, interacts with. If this isn't addressed, I'll be disappointed.
I think we have to have an answer to who resurrected starbuck and built a pristine new viper for her.
I don't have any specific questions that I need answered in the finale. I feel like these last 9 episodes have given me enough mythology that I can probably put the backstory together on my own (see my post in the previous episode thread). What's more important to me is getting a satisfying conclusion for these characters I've become so invested in. Any more backstory sprinkled in is great, but I'm in it for the wrap-up.
There were fans who loved the the Prisoner for 14 episodes, only to become outraged when every question wasn't answered with a neat bow on top in the finale. I was not one of them. The Prisoner finale was bonkers, sure, but I loved it. A little ambiguity goes a long way. So if Ron Moore jumps the narrative 10 years for every 15 minutes of next week's finale, without going back to answer every question about angels and Daniel and the Cylon god, consider me satisfied.
Anywho, I thought this week's episode was great. I'm not sure what the literal meaning of the flashbacks are. I'm not even sure if there ARE any literal meanings. But seeing those characters interact within the setting of a normal society adds a layer to their already considerable depth. And the way the flashbacks segued into each character's present state was interesting.
Anders, in particular, had a fascinating flashback. I always take for granted that he was Caprica's Peyton Manning. The writers did a nice job interweaving sports star Anders with final five Sam.
I enjoyed the scene where random characters were sort of passing the narrative baton following Adama's decision to go after Hera.
And I loved the "draw a line down the hangar deck" device. I thought for sure Baltar was going to hop over the line at the last moment, especially considering Lee's earlier speech to him. Also, Doc Kottle rules.
I have to agree with MonsterAtomic. Those 2 questions... who is behind the visions, what's up with Starbuck... have to be answered either on Friday, or in June, or I'll be pissed.
I, too, loved the Prisoner finale, but the Prisoner was always more metaphor and allegory than direct storytelling. Galactica has elements of that, but it's way more mainstream. If Galactica leaves questions unanswered, it will be a cop out as opposed to an artistic choice. And for those people who were disappointed by the ending of The Prisoner, at least it was only a 14 episode series. Galactica is 4 Seasons. Believe me, I've enjoyed the ride, but without some answers (even if I don't like the answers), my view of Galactica will be somewhat tainted.
By the way, if you watch this week's Galactica: The Last Frakkin' Special, Ron Moore comes out and tells you point blank what is behind Baltar's visions. He doesn't go into detail, but it's the first time I've heard any official explanation.
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I loved the flashbacks, but what the hell was the significance of Lee trying to get the pigeon out of his house?
I thought for sure that Baltar wa going to join the others on the suicide misson. I think he still might. The Six in his head will probably convince him.
"Spins and turns, angles and curves.
The shape of dreams, half remembered.
Slip the (slippery?) bonds of earth and touch the face of perfection.
A perfect face, a perfect lace.
Find a perfect world for the the end of Kara Thrace.
End of line."
C-Bucks rule!!!
I get that we're going to have a final confrontation with Cavil's cylons, but I still don't get a sense that we're going to get closure and that worries me.
Maybe Baltar will gather the remaining colonists to come aid BSG when things seem the darkest.
I feel like I'm expecting an answer to the angels and hopefully finding a home for the colonists. Despite Moore claiming his finale will not be what people expect, I'm still clinging to the hope we get those two things.
I don't really have much of a comment on this particular episode. I'm sure I'll have many comments next week. I don't know... the flashbacks didn't seem to offer much more than what we already knew, other than to actually see it all happen. I assume they will all have a meaning in the last two hours, I hope.
I'm sure not all of the questions we viewers have will be answered. And rightfully so. Some questions should remain partially unanswered. Like Kara Thrace, I bet we will not learn much more about her. We already know she is dead and what we see is an angel of her former self. I don't feel I need to know more about her other than why she is the harbinger of death. I think what Adam here at work said might be true. The hybrids (and Sam) have said that Kara will lead them all to their deaths. We as views may assume that the deaths are that of the humans but it almost seems that the deaths are associated with the Cylons. The claims by the hybrids never say who she will lead to their deaths, humans or Cylons?
I just don't see all of the questions being answered in the last 2 hours. I don't want it to be another information overload like the episode where Sam starts telling everyone about how the final five escaped Earth and made the skin jobs and resurrection technology.
One thing is for sure, we more than likely will not learn anything more about the Cylons. It appears to me that Ron Moore is leaving those answers for the TV movie, "The Plan", which is supposed to air in June 2009. A big portion of answers into the whole grand scheme of things is supposed to be answered in this movie, which explains the Cylon's plan from the Cylon point of view. I heard somewhere that the reason the movie was done was so the story could have been more thoroughly told. So even though the show ends this coming Friday, we will have to wait ubtil June before a lot more questions can be answered.
Ugh, I think I need some kind of answer to shapeshifting reality effecting "projections" that some of the characters, especially Baltar, interacts with. If this isn't addressed, I'll be disappointed.
I think we have to have an answer to who resurrected starbuck and built a pristine new viper for her.
I don't have any specific questions that I need answered in the finale. I feel like these last 9 episodes have given me enough mythology that I can probably put the backstory together on my own (see my post in the previous episode thread). What's more important to me is getting a satisfying conclusion for these characters I've become so invested in. Any more backstory sprinkled in is great, but I'm in it for the wrap-up.
There were fans who loved the the Prisoner for 14 episodes, only to become outraged when every question wasn't answered with a neat bow on top in the finale. I was not one of them. The Prisoner finale was bonkers, sure, but I loved it. A little ambiguity goes a long way. So if Ron Moore jumps the narrative 10 years for every 15 minutes of next week's finale, without going back to answer every question about angels and Daniel and the Cylon god, consider me satisfied.
Anywho, I thought this week's episode was great. I'm not sure what the literal meaning of the flashbacks are. I'm not even sure if there ARE any literal meanings. But seeing those characters interact within the setting of a normal society adds a layer to their already considerable depth. And the way the flashbacks segued into each character's present state was interesting.
Anders, in particular, had a fascinating flashback. I always take for granted that he was Caprica's Peyton Manning. The writers did a nice job interweaving sports star Anders with final five Sam.
I enjoyed the scene where random characters were sort of passing the narrative baton following Adama's decision to go after Hera.
And I loved the "draw a line down the hangar deck" device. I thought for sure Baltar was going to hop over the line at the last moment, especially considering Lee's earlier speech to him. Also, Doc Kottle rules.
I have to agree with MonsterAtomic. Those 2 questions... who is behind the visions, what's up with Starbuck... have to be answered either on Friday, or in June, or I'll be pissed.
I, too, loved the Prisoner finale, but the Prisoner was always more metaphor and allegory than direct storytelling. Galactica has elements of that, but it's way more mainstream. If Galactica leaves questions unanswered, it will be a cop out as opposed to an artistic choice. And for those people who were disappointed by the ending of The Prisoner, at least it was only a 14 episode series. Galactica is 4 Seasons. Believe me, I've enjoyed the ride, but without some answers (even if I don't like the answers), my view of Galactica will be somewhat tainted.
By the way, if you watch this week's Galactica: The Last Frakkin' Special, Ron Moore comes out and tells you point blank what is behind Baltar's visions. He doesn't go into detail, but it's the first time I've heard any official explanation.
We're not watching the Last Frakking Special until after the finale for just that reason...
I watched half of the frakking special this morning. He basically makes a statement and doesn't really discuss it.
Its no surprise... its not a chip in his head.
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