Well, Tyroll's absence plus the appearance of a new chief seems to indicate that Tyroll is either in the brig or in hiding.
Also, I noticed nobody on the show made the "Daniel is Kara's dad" leap... I wonder if we're going to get definitive answers about that one.
When they started talking about the Cylon colony, I was thinking "It's going to be our (the viewer's) Earth."
When Adama and Tigh were talking about "sending Galactica out with style," I couldn't help but think that they meant "blaze of glory."
This stuck with me: when Kara gives Baltar her old tags, she says "the only thing I'm sure of is that I'm no angel." The next shot is Kara in the hallway with glowy white back-lighting. Then she walks through the doorway to Sam's room and is immediately bathed in red light. She then attempts to shoot Sam in the face.
I think whomever brought Kara back from the dead may be a different entity than the one guiding Rosalyn/Athena/Hera/Six via the shared visions. Or maybe there is only one entity but "the one, true god" is the series' ultimate big bad, so he/she is more devil than god. Either way, the divine "word salad" of the bayship hybrids (and Sam) seems to be at odds with Baltar's "one, true God." Which would add more layers to the scene where Caprica Six is disgusted by Baltar's offer to join his cult.
Btw: Kudos to the leaders of human civilization for taking the time to smoke a blunt.
Could it be that Tigh is the father of all the Eights? The dying Eight said she was happy to meet her father before she died. Then her last three words "Too much confusion," is a reference to the song All Along The Watchtower. Anders, Chief, Tigh and Tory all said the same thing at the end of Season 3 when that song switched them all on. Why is this song so important to so many? Also Ellen tells Tigh, after he cries that he had a child once, no you had millions. And Anders! I hope the show doesn't end with him being the hybrid of the Galactica.
As for Galactica, I think I know what will happen to her. Did you pick up on the clues? Clue #1: In the beginning of the show they show Hera playing with a model of the Galactica and sliding it right into a model of a baseship. Clue #2: Adama orders Tigh to gather up all of Galactica's vipers, ordinance and supplies because they are going to abandon her, seemingly to move to the baseship. Then the two of them toast Galactica, sitting there, two old friends and Adama says that they need to give Galactica a good send off. To send her off "in style". I bet Adama is going to ram the Galactica into a Baseship or that Colony ship. Remember, Lee did it with the Pegasus when Galactica rescued everyone from New Caprica at the beginning of Season 3. I think a good send off would be for Galactica to fly into (if it can) the Colony ship and then execute a jump from within. That could destroy the Colony ship from the inside-out. We saw how much damage Boomer's tiny Raptor did when it jumped so close to Galactica. Imagine how much damage a Battlestar can do. Of course doing that would require some people to be on board and I bet that's how Adama goes down with his ship. Obviously I would rather have everyone survive but wouldn't it be good writing if Rosilyn died when Galactica does? Adama and his two women dying together for the chance to save the others. How poetic.
And Boomer? I think Boomer is going to have a change of heart and eventually save Hera or something to stop Cavil. When she realized that Hera could see her projection of the house and her daughters bedroom, Boomer seemed to start a loving bond with Hera. She sure was crying a lot when Hera was screaming her name as Cavil was sitting Hera down behind that glass wall.
Kara is an angel. I knew it. Her coming back from the dead in a brand new Viper bathed in an angelic light. Obvious! But the question still remains. Is she a good angel or a dark angel like Count Iblis in the old Galactica? Chief? Where the Frak was he? Maybe he went after Boomer? Nice to see Rosilyn and Adama smoking the blunt she saved from New Caprica. A little Pot is good medicine for those on cancer treatment. :)
Well here comes the ending of a great show. The last episode starts this coming Friday night as Part 1. Then Parts 2 & 3 the following Friday, March 20th. I love the writing of this show and the acting is great. Adama's scene where he went crazy with the white paint and then broke down into tears was awesome!!!
With every episode, this show becomes more and more like a desconstruction of Star Trek (or perhaps Sci-Fi in general). How many time have we seen starship Captains in Trek blow up their own ships with hardly a tear. You'd think they had no attachment to them at all. This is how you handle the destruction of a ship.
Anders is going down with Galactica. If Galactica is going to be used as a weapon, and I think it is, Anders is going to pilot it into the heart of the hive, and then jump. They already set up what kind of damage that can do. It will be brilliant.
That vision of Hera and Sox and Roslyn running around in that building is going to actualy happen, but it will be a Cylon projection (or a projection from something else). I wonder what the rules are with these projections. If you die in the projection, do you die in real life? If Six and Baltar take Hera away in the projection, does she vanish in real life?
How are they going to introduce some big bad omnipotent God in the last three episodes? If they don't do that right, it's really going to come out of left field. I'm still not sure that's going to happen.
You know what I find interesting? As you know I don't mind spoilers and there have been many but I haven't seen ANY major spoilers about the end of this show and I have to give props to Ron Moore for that. He knew that there would be spoilers out there that could ruin the finale of the show, so he creates a distraction. It was reported in an interview with James Olmos and Katie Sackhoff that the last three part episode (3 hrs) was originally written for 5 hrs. The cast and crew received scripts and filmed five hours worth of footage. It seems that Ron Moore did this so no one would know what was actually going to make it into the show and what was written and filmed as a decoy. This is the one time that I'm glad that there are no spoilers about the end...and if there were, I probably wouldn't read them anyways...being that it is the end of the series.
I think Ellen's comment about Tigh having "millions of children" was just referring to the final five building the other 8 skinjobs. She said something similar when she learned that Tigh had knocked up Caprica: "Tigh, they're our children."
I've thought for a while that Adama would go down with the ship, but Anders becoming Galactica's hybrid DOES open the door for Adama not being on board when they ram into or jump from within Cavil's colony.
Somebody was working with the final five back when they were still on Earth, right? They were warned by somebody of the impending attack. So maybe this person was close to Ellen. When the final five get around to making the other 8 skinjobs, Ellen models the Daniel line off of their mysterious benefactor. Maybe this same benefactor got to the Colonial centurions first (FTL) and established himself as the Cylon god. And now he's using the same projection/communication technology that was used to warn the final five of Earth's destruction to manipulate Baltar and Kara.
Meanwhile, the shared visions could be a funky projection from the bayship hybrid (or Sam). We've already seen a hybrid interact with Rosalyn when it showed her the scene of her own death.
If the "one, true god" ends up being some form of the Daniel model, who maybe fathered Kara, it would give closure to multiple plot threads at once...
If any of this is true, I have to wonder how much Ellen really knows. I always get the vibe that she is playing Tigh and the other final five...
It seems obvious to me that Ellen knows more about who and what the final five were and are than the others, except for Anders who remembered a lot of things because of the bullet in his brain.
Maybe Daniel was modeled after whomever or whatever warned the final five that the attack on Earth was forthcoming and somehow the song All Along The Watchtower is key. Because not only did the final 5 (actually 4) hear it, but Kara knows the song from her dad during her childhood, Hera wrote the added notes via her colored star pattern that she drew for Kara and now the dying Eight in sickbay references the song by saying, "Too much confusion" to Tigh before she dies. These last 3 episodes should be interesting.
I think Shunanimous nailed it. The only way you can introduce this one true God character is if we've seen him before. It has to be Daniel... or Boxey.
If you watched the coming attractions for the following week's episode, you would know the answer to that.
The answer is also pretty obvious since one of the CIC's crewman (the guy that sits above Hoshi) and two of the Marine guards involved in the mutiny are back at their posts. One of them was guarding Adama as he walked through the corridors of the Galactica. The guard that was following Adama when Helo came up to him and asked to take a Raptor to find Hera, he was part of the mutiny as well. I think many were just forgiven.
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Good episode, but we didn't really learn much... did we? Still, some great dialog and performances in there.
Kara was ready to kill Sam. Interesting. I like that she put her picture up there along with the dead.
I'm beginning to think Kara is NOT an Angel like everyone thinks. But then again, I'm not sure what the definition of Angel is in this show.
Well, Tyroll's absence plus the appearance of a new chief seems to indicate that Tyroll is either in the brig or in hiding.
Also, I noticed nobody on the show made the "Daniel is Kara's dad" leap... I wonder if we're going to get definitive answers about that one.
When they started talking about the Cylon colony, I was thinking "It's going to be our (the viewer's) Earth."
When Adama and Tigh were talking about "sending Galactica out with style," I couldn't help but think that they meant "blaze of glory."
This stuck with me: when Kara gives Baltar her old tags, she says "the only thing I'm sure of is that I'm no angel." The next shot is Kara in the hallway with glowy white back-lighting. Then she walks through the doorway to Sam's room and is immediately bathed in red light. She then attempts to shoot Sam in the face.
I think whomever brought Kara back from the dead may be a different entity than the one guiding Rosalyn/Athena/Hera/Six via the shared visions. Or maybe there is only one entity but "the one, true god" is the series' ultimate big bad, so he/she is more devil than god. Either way, the divine "word salad" of the bayship hybrids (and Sam) seems to be at odds with Baltar's "one, true God." Which would add more layers to the scene where Caprica Six is disgusted by Baltar's offer to join his cult.
Btw: Kudos to the leaders of human civilization for taking the time to smoke a blunt.
Could it be that Tigh is the father of all the Eights? The dying Eight said she was happy to meet her father before she died. Then her last three words "Too much confusion," is a reference to the song All Along The Watchtower. Anders, Chief, Tigh and Tory all said the same thing at the end of Season 3 when that song switched them all on. Why is this song so important to so many? Also Ellen tells Tigh, after he cries that he had a child once, no you had millions. And Anders! I hope the show doesn't end with him being the hybrid of the Galactica.
As for Galactica, I think I know what will happen to her. Did you pick up on the clues? Clue #1: In the beginning of the show they show Hera playing with a model of the Galactica and sliding it right into a model of a baseship. Clue #2: Adama orders Tigh to gather up all of Galactica's vipers, ordinance and supplies because they are going to abandon her, seemingly to move to the baseship. Then the two of them toast Galactica, sitting there, two old friends and Adama says that they need to give Galactica a good send off. To send her off "in style". I bet Adama is going to ram the Galactica into a Baseship or that Colony ship. Remember, Lee did it with the Pegasus when Galactica rescued everyone from New Caprica at the beginning of Season 3. I think a good send off would be for Galactica to fly into (if it can) the Colony ship and then execute a jump from within. That could destroy the Colony ship from the inside-out. We saw how much damage Boomer's tiny Raptor did when it jumped so close to Galactica. Imagine how much damage a Battlestar can do. Of course doing that would require some people to be on board and I bet that's how Adama goes down with his ship. Obviously I would rather have everyone survive but wouldn't it be good writing if Rosilyn died when Galactica does? Adama and his two women dying together for the chance to save the others. How poetic.
And Boomer? I think Boomer is going to have a change of heart and eventually save Hera or something to stop Cavil. When she realized that Hera could see her projection of the house and her daughters bedroom, Boomer seemed to start a loving bond with Hera. She sure was crying a lot when Hera was screaming her name as Cavil was sitting Hera down behind that glass wall.
Kara is an angel. I knew it. Her coming back from the dead in a brand new Viper bathed in an angelic light. Obvious! But the question still remains. Is she a good angel or a dark angel like Count Iblis in the old Galactica? Chief? Where the Frak was he? Maybe he went after Boomer? Nice to see Rosilyn and Adama smoking the blunt she saved from New Caprica. A little Pot is good medicine for those on cancer treatment. :)
Well here comes the ending of a great show. The last episode starts this coming Friday night as Part 1. Then Parts 2 & 3 the following Friday, March 20th. I love the writing of this show and the acting is great. Adama's scene where he went crazy with the white paint and then broke down into tears was awesome!!!
With every episode, this show becomes more and more like a desconstruction of Star Trek (or perhaps Sci-Fi in general). How many time have we seen starship Captains in Trek blow up their own ships with hardly a tear. You'd think they had no attachment to them at all. This is how you handle the destruction of a ship.
Anders is going down with Galactica. If Galactica is going to be used as a weapon, and I think it is, Anders is going to pilot it into the heart of the hive, and then jump. They already set up what kind of damage that can do. It will be brilliant.
That vision of Hera and Sox and Roslyn running around in that building is going to actualy happen, but it will be a Cylon projection (or a projection from something else). I wonder what the rules are with these projections. If you die in the projection, do you die in real life? If Six and Baltar take Hera away in the projection, does she vanish in real life?
How are they going to introduce some big bad omnipotent God in the last three episodes? If they don't do that right, it's really going to come out of left field. I'm still not sure that's going to happen.
You know what I find interesting? As you know I don't mind spoilers and there have been many but I haven't seen ANY major spoilers about the end of this show and I have to give props to Ron Moore for that. He knew that there would be spoilers out there that could ruin the finale of the show, so he creates a distraction. It was reported in an interview with James Olmos and Katie Sackhoff that the last three part episode (3 hrs) was originally written for 5 hrs. The cast and crew received scripts and filmed five hours worth of footage. It seems that Ron Moore did this so no one would know what was actually going to make it into the show and what was written and filmed as a decoy. This is the one time that I'm glad that there are no spoilers about the end...and if there were, I probably wouldn't read them anyways...being that it is the end of the series.
I think Ellen's comment about Tigh having "millions of children" was just referring to the final five building the other 8 skinjobs. She said something similar when she learned that Tigh had knocked up Caprica: "Tigh, they're our children."
I've thought for a while that Adama would go down with the ship, but Anders becoming Galactica's hybrid DOES open the door for Adama not being on board when they ram into or jump from within Cavil's colony.
Somebody was working with the final five back when they were still on Earth, right? They were warned by somebody of the impending attack. So maybe this person was close to Ellen. When the final five get around to making the other 8 skinjobs, Ellen models the Daniel line off of their mysterious benefactor. Maybe this same benefactor got to the Colonial centurions first (FTL) and established himself as the Cylon god. And now he's using the same projection/communication technology that was used to warn the final five of Earth's destruction to manipulate Baltar and Kara.
Meanwhile, the shared visions could be a funky projection from the bayship hybrid (or Sam). We've already seen a hybrid interact with Rosalyn when it showed her the scene of her own death.
If the "one, true god" ends up being some form of the Daniel model, who maybe fathered Kara, it would give closure to multiple plot threads at once...
If any of this is true, I have to wonder how much Ellen really knows. I always get the vibe that she is playing Tigh and the other final five...
It seems obvious to me that Ellen knows more about who and what the final five were and are than the others, except for Anders who remembered a lot of things because of the bullet in his brain.
Maybe Daniel was modeled after whomever or whatever warned the final five that the attack on Earth was forthcoming and somehow the song All Along The Watchtower is key. Because not only did the final 5 (actually 4) hear it, but Kara knows the song from her dad during her childhood, Hera wrote the added notes via her colored star pattern that she drew for Kara and now the dying Eight in sickbay references the song by saying, "Too much confusion" to Tigh before she dies. These last 3 episodes should be interesting.
I think Shunanimous nailed it. The only way you can introduce this one true God character is if we've seen him before. It has to be Daniel... or Boxey.
I'm changing my vote to Boxey.
Hey, off topic... but do you think we're going to find out what happened to Seelix and Racetrack after the mutiny? Brig? Firing squad?
I forgot about them. I would hope they would explain that. Maybe we'll see them in the evacuation. Maybe they'll go down with Galactica too.
If you watched the coming attractions for the following week's episode, you would know the answer to that.
The answer is also pretty obvious since one of the CIC's crewman (the guy that sits above Hoshi) and two of the Marine guards involved in the mutiny are back at their posts. One of them was guarding Adama as he walked through the corridors of the Galactica. The guard that was following Adama when Helo came up to him and asked to take a Raptor to find Hera, he was part of the mutiny as well. I think many were just forgiven.
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