Suspicions about a possible breach intensify after Ben is taken from the infirmary, and a reluctant Miles is forced to work with Hurley when he's asked to deliver an important package to a top Dharma official.
So did everyone recognize the guy in the van who grabbed Miles? My wife didn't. He's one of the survivors of the Ajira Airlines crash who's working with the bounty hunter. So does this mean there's a third faction at work here? Last week, I thought the bounty hunter and her guys worked for Widmore, but after the conversation in the van, it's obvious they don't. Could she be working for Ben? I doubt it, or they just would have killed Miles to prevent him from going with the Widmore expedition.
I think we just officially found out what the numbers mean... NOTHING! They're just the freakin' serial number of that particular hatch. I love it. I thought that some online webisodes mentioned that the numbers were part of some kind of formula that determined the end of the world, but I like this better. Why did the have to have some kind of special meaning, besides the coincidence of them popping up all the time?
So Hurley hears the numbers back in 1977. Is it possible that he tells the numbers to the guy who ends up telling him the numbers in the 90's? That would be a nice piece of circular history.
Was Faraday coming BACK to the island after leaving it? It makes no sense that he'd just end up off the island. Pierre Chang made it sound like these scientists were coming to the island for the first time. Oooh... I just had a thought. Maybe he turned the donkey wheel! He was down there when it was discovered. Maybe he was the first to turn it, and ended up off the island. Then, he comes back as a scientist.
Hurley trying to write Empire before Lucas does was genius. And I loved his mischievous banter with Chang and Miles in the van.
OK...a couple things popped out at me during this episode.
First, opening scene the clock says 3:16, immediately I thought John 3:16. "For God so loved the world that he gave ("sacrificed" in some translations) his one and only Son, so that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."At first it didn't really make sense so I dismissed it, but as the episode progressed it started to make perfect sense (to me at least). Miles thinks his father hated him and his mother because he kicked them out a long time ago. As we saw through the window, Dr. Candle/Chang/whatever was obviously very happy to have a son. Alright so the point...I think there is going to be a point where Dr. Candle has to sacrifice his son (to tests, experiments, kick him off the island?) in order to learn the secret of eternal life. I know it is kind of a stretch, but we know eternal life is in there, RICHARD, and Dharma is most likely trying to find it.
The hatch numbers...I don't think they have to be meaningless just because they were the serial number for the hatch. They could have been chosen as the serial number for that hatch for a reason. They obviously know about the electro-magnetism and may assume it has something to do with the end of the world, so they picked that sequence because of the relation to the end of the world. It is a stretch, but it's plausible.
I too liked the conversations between Hurley and Miles about Dr. Candle and their "abilities".
What did they do with the body? Did they put it in with the polar bears to get rid of it? Why did they need to dispose of it like that? Did they feed it to the polar bears?
Could the third faction be Dharma remnants? Trying to regain control of the island? The whole shadow of the statue thing is kind of cultish and so is Dharma.
I liked Daniel coming back, but now I am confused about Sawyers comment about him being on the island. I can buy that he got booted from the island via the wheel, but him coming back is bugging me. I don't know, I just feel that if he was kicked off and able to come back in the mid 70's, and Whidmore gets exiled sometime later, and Faraday is Whidmore's son, shouldn't Whidmore know how to get back to the island?
I'm starting to confuse myself, so I'll stop here.
I lke the 3:16 theory, but my guess was ultimately Miles is going to save his mom and himself by getting them off the island. He's going to tell his mom that his dad doesn't love them, so they will never come back to the island and discover the "horrible" experiments his dad was doing.
Sawyer mentioned Farraday "was" on the island, I believe, but they never said how he left.
Is the bounty hunter widmore, other, third party? I guess I'm jaded and past the point of caring. I don't think we have enough clues and it'll just be revealed and they will be wiped out before the end of the season.
I think this show rarely paysoff the third party survivors like nikki, paula, frogurt, so I don't expect them to pay off bounty either.
I think Miles will convince his Dad that he has to get his family off the island any way possible. The wife will want to stay, and he'll have to act mean an uncaring to save them.
Chairman pretty much summed up my Miles & dad theory, except he left out my sarcastic "Harry Chapin must have been in Dharma" comment.
I recognized the guy in the van as one of the Ajira survivors only because I'd previously recognized him from the film adaptation of the novel Choke. I'm pulling this out of my ass, but I wonder if this "third faction" will somehow tie into Libby (Hurley's almost girlfriend). I always felt like there was more to her story than what we were given. To be honest, I need this third faction (if it IS a third faction) to have some previously established tie-in to the first two seasons for me to buy it.
I didn't interpret the numbers being imprinted on the hatch as "they mean nothing." I thought it was just another one of the numbers' countless occurrences within the show's mythology. Am I in the minority here?
3 things on this show I will never grow tired of: Sayid killing people with his bare hands, Ben manipulating people, and Miles & Hurley cruising around in a VW bus listening to an 8-track.
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So did everyone recognize the guy in the van who grabbed Miles? My wife didn't. He's one of the survivors of the Ajira Airlines crash who's working with the bounty hunter. So does this mean there's a third faction at work here? Last week, I thought the bounty hunter and her guys worked for Widmore, but after the conversation in the van, it's obvious they don't. Could she be working for Ben? I doubt it, or they just would have killed Miles to prevent him from going with the Widmore expedition.
I think we just officially found out what the numbers mean... NOTHING! They're just the freakin' serial number of that particular hatch. I love it. I thought that some online webisodes mentioned that the numbers were part of some kind of formula that determined the end of the world, but I like this better. Why did the have to have some kind of special meaning, besides the coincidence of them popping up all the time?
So Hurley hears the numbers back in 1977. Is it possible that he tells the numbers to the guy who ends up telling him the numbers in the 90's? That would be a nice piece of circular history.
Was Faraday coming BACK to the island after leaving it? It makes no sense that he'd just end up off the island. Pierre Chang made it sound like these scientists were coming to the island for the first time. Oooh... I just had a thought. Maybe he turned the donkey wheel! He was down there when it was discovered. Maybe he was the first to turn it, and ended up off the island. Then, he comes back as a scientist.
Hurley trying to write Empire before Lucas does was genius. And I loved his mischievous banter with Chang and Miles in the van.
Did anyone notice what was on the blackboard Jack was erasing? I didn't, but according to the internet, it was all about Egyptian history.
OK...a couple things popped out at me during this episode.
First, opening scene the clock says 3:16, immediately I thought John 3:16.
"For God so loved the world that he gave ("sacrificed" in some translations) his one and only Son, so that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."At first it didn't really make sense so I dismissed it, but as the episode progressed it started to make perfect sense (to me at least). Miles thinks his father hated him and his mother because he kicked them out a long time ago. As we saw through the window, Dr. Candle/Chang/whatever was obviously very happy to have a son. Alright so the point...I think there is going to be a point where Dr. Candle has to sacrifice his son (to tests, experiments, kick him off the island?) in order to learn the secret of eternal life. I know it is kind of a stretch, but we know eternal life is in there, RICHARD, and Dharma is most likely trying to find it.
The hatch numbers...I don't think they have to be meaningless just because they were the serial number for the hatch. They could have been chosen as the serial number for that hatch for a reason. They obviously know about the electro-magnetism and may assume it has something to do with the end of the world, so they picked that sequence because of the relation to the end of the world. It is a stretch, but it's plausible.
I too liked the conversations between Hurley and Miles about Dr. Candle and their "abilities".
What did they do with the body? Did they put it in with the polar bears to get rid of it? Why did they need to dispose of it like that? Did they feed it to the polar bears?
Could the third faction be Dharma remnants? Trying to regain control of the island? The whole shadow of the statue thing is kind of cultish and so is Dharma.
I liked Daniel coming back, but now I am confused about Sawyers comment about him being on the island. I can buy that he got booted from the island via the wheel, but him coming back is bugging me. I don't know, I just feel that if he was kicked off and able to come back in the mid 70's, and Whidmore gets exiled sometime later, and Faraday is Whidmore's son, shouldn't Whidmore know how to get back to the island?
I'm starting to confuse myself, so I'll stop here.
I lke the 3:16 theory, but my guess was ultimately Miles is going to save his mom and himself by getting them off the island. He's going to tell his mom that his dad doesn't love them, so they will never come back to the island and discover the "horrible" experiments his dad was doing.
Sawyer mentioned Farraday "was" on the island, I believe, but they never said how he left.
Is the bounty hunter widmore, other, third party? I guess I'm jaded and past the point of caring. I don't think we have enough clues and it'll just be revealed and they will be wiped out before the end of the season.
I think this show rarely paysoff the third party survivors like nikki, paula, frogurt, so I don't expect them to pay off bounty either.
I think Miles will convince his Dad that he has to get his family off the island any way possible. The wife will want to stay, and he'll have to act mean an uncaring to save them.
Chairman pretty much summed up my Miles & dad theory, except he left out my sarcastic "Harry Chapin must have been in Dharma" comment.
I recognized the guy in the van as one of the Ajira survivors only because I'd previously recognized him from the film adaptation of the novel Choke. I'm pulling this out of my ass, but I wonder if this "third faction" will somehow tie into Libby (Hurley's almost girlfriend). I always felt like there was more to her story than what we were given. To be honest, I need this third faction (if it IS a third faction) to have some previously established tie-in to the first two seasons for me to buy it.
I didn't interpret the numbers being imprinted on the hatch as "they mean nothing." I thought it was just another one of the numbers' countless occurrences within the show's mythology. Am I in the minority here?
3 things on this show I will never grow tired of: Sayid killing people with his bare hands, Ben manipulating people, and Miles & Hurley cruising around in a VW bus listening to an 8-track.
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