Well next season should be interesting. They better explain how Starbuck survived.
My predictions...
The entire fleet is going to be taken prisoner by the Cylons, especially as they are so close to getting to earth.
Pres and Athena help Six and Baltar smuggle out Hera because they begin to trust her and rather have Hera protected by her then be taken by the Cylons.
Hmmm, maybe the cylon fleet they encounter are different from the past cylon fleet. Maybe these are are going to be made up of the final four that were revealed.
Maybe we can have cylon v cylon battle with Battlestar caught in the middle.
I'm sure Ronald Moore has something in store that none of would possibly imagine.
I don't think that's really Starbuck. Or if it is, she's "become a higher being". Where did she get the viper from? Robert pointed out that the viper was in perfect condition. Starbuck's viper was always beat up. It definitely exploded. She's "Ghost Starbuck"!
I think you're right about these Cylons being different, but how old can they be? Man created the Cylons, and the first models were the ones we saw in the pilot... the ones that looked like Cylons from the original series. So there couldn't have been any Cylons made before them, right? How long have the Cylons been around... does anyone know?
With all that happened, my favorite moment was when Baltar was screaming at Gaeta about trying to stab him... "but you missed, didn't you? Butterfingers!!!" Awesome.
I don't think that was Starbuck in the human flesh. She, along with her ship, looked angelic. Her ship, which exploded two episodes ago, was spotlessly clean.
Hera is no longer the only cylon/human child if Tyrol is indeed a cylon. He and Cally have a son.
How the hell can the President share dreams with Cylons?
How can an Earth song be used to activate Cylons? I think there's so much more to the whole Tigh and company scenario. They may not be Cylons at all.
I wonder if a third party is at work here. I guess you could say the Final 5 are a third party, but it could be more than that. In the original series, there was a third party of "Angels" that helped Galactica. Could be based on that.
I forgot to mention... in the very last episode of the original Galactica, Apollo is hearing transmissions... not in his head, but from an old unused communications tower. In the last scene, he and some others are up there and they finally give up. As they leave the communications dome, the audience hears a transmission of the moon landing. I bet this is where they got the whole transmission idea from. It's pretty cool how they take isolated elements from the old series and twist them around. I wonder if the Burillian Nomen or the Eastern Alliance will show up?
Do human looking Cylons age? I don't think so, right? Then how can Tigh be a Cylon. Bill Adama has been with him for 20 years. He's seen a younger Tigh.
Of course the human-looking cylons age. Don't you remember in season 2.5 Episode Downloaded, Caprica 6 was in Sharons apartment and she was looking at a picture of Sharon as a kid with her supposed family? Plus the human cylons are identical to humans in almost every way. When Sharon gave birth to Hera, doc Cottle said to Sharon, "with all of your advancements, you people could have updated the plumbing" referring to the fact that they are just as flawed inside as humans are.
I still think they (Tigh, Anders, Tyrol, Tori and Starbuck) are the Final Five or at least the Five Priests of the temple. There is definitely a connection between these 5 Priests and the Final Five. Remember what you speculated Chris, when D'anna looked at that one Final Five, she knew who it was and was very apologetic towards it. "I'm sorry, we had no idea."
Tigh, Tori, Anders & Tyrol have to be supreme beings in some way, whether that's a cylon or one of the 5 Priests. All of them before realizing who they are made a comment that they needed to "get out of here" and "there's got to be a way out of here". It's like their spirit wants to leave their bodies. Since the Iona Nebula is supposed to be the roadsign to Earth, perhaps it is God's plan to have the Priests and the Chosen One to show the way. Starbuck was obviously an angelic manifestation of her former self. Perhaps by dying she obtained the consciousness of her now spiritual role, as one of the 5 Priests. Perhaps the Final Five do not download when they die, they just become angelic beings that can project themselves. The fleet lost all power when they reached the Nebula, which is possibly the home of the 5 Priests and as soon as Tigh, Anders, Tyrol and Tori admitted to themselves that they were cylons, the fleet regained power and the cylons showed up. It's like a higher being (God) is using them and Starbuck to help lead the fleet to Earth.
I always assumed that the picture of young Boomer was a fake. She was given that picture by the cylons to reinforce her fake memories. I think it was said somewhere that her memories of childhood were all implanted.
There's another problem with Tigh being a Cylon. I got this idea from a post on Aint It Cool News. The first Cylon war was the result of the mechanical Cylons gaining sentience and rebelling. For Tigh to be a Cylon, the "skinjobs" would have to predate the mechanical Cylons. That doesn't make sense, unless the skinjob Cylons have never really been Cylons at all. After all, we only have their word for it that they are an advanced model of the toasters - what if they're lying? That would be pretty interesting.
How about this for a theory (I've been thinking WAY too much about this)? We've always asummed that the mechanical Cylons created the "skinjobs". What if a third party created them? What if that third party were Earthlings? Earth would have to be pretty far advanced at this point, but the final 5 could be from earth.
Well I got one thing right, Lee will lose sight of Starbuck and the viewers will be left wondering if he actually saw her or not. Knew they couldn't answer that mystery right away.
I think it would be awesome if Ronald Moore gave us a reveal that give a substantial reason to why the humans must die, which puts the final four legitamitely on the side of the Cylons, giving the viewers a question to whether rooting for the Humans should be a foregone fact. This show has always been a morality play and we're starting to see the human race crack with gaeta lying.
Should definitely be interesting. Does sure make it sound like next season could be the end.
Here's a quote from BSG's composer. I found on anoter blog :^)
"I happened to catch Ron Moore in the hallway at Universal and, in a brief conversation, got everything I needed to know. I learned that the idea was not that Bob Dylan necessarily exists in the characters' universe, but that an artist on one of the colonies may have recorded a song with the exact same melody and lyrics. Perhaps this unknown performer and Dylan pulled inspiration from a common, ethereal source. Therefore, I was told to make no musical references to any "Earthly" versions, Hendrix, Dylan or any others. The arrangement needed to sound like a pop song that belonged in the Galactica universe, not our own."
Many of the questions I had immediately after the episode have been answered in interviews and blog quotes... but I still need to study up on the BSG mythology, because somewhere along the lines I've confused aspects of the original series with aspects of the new series.
The thing is, I'm so invested in these characters, and the execution is so great, I'm not trying to unwrap the mystery as I watch this show. Shit, the scene where Tigh, Anders, Tory, and Tyrol walk into that room, with the slow motion buildup preceding and the cranked up music when they get there...and then their reactions! Fracking priceless. Tigh's "Whooooaaa..." is an instant classic.
I've rewatched the final 15 minutes of the finale twice since it aired (sad, I know)...which shouldn't diminish how great the courtroom scenes were... Adama Sr pushing Jr to answer questions on the stand. Baltar's "Oh Felix, what are you doing..." and "Butterfingers!"
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Holy Frak!
Well next season should be interesting. They better explain how Starbuck survived.
My predictions...
The entire fleet is going to be taken prisoner by the Cylons, especially as they are so close to getting to earth.
Pres and Athena help Six and Baltar smuggle out Hera because they begin to trust her and rather have Hera protected by her then be taken by the Cylons.
Hmmm, maybe the cylon fleet they encounter are different from the past cylon fleet. Maybe these are are going to be made up of the final four that were revealed.
Maybe we can have cylon v cylon battle with Battlestar caught in the middle.
I'm sure Ronald Moore has something in store that none of would possibly imagine.
I don't think that's really Starbuck. Or if it is, she's "become a higher being". Where did she get the viper from? Robert pointed out that the viper was in perfect condition. Starbuck's viper was always beat up. It definitely exploded. She's "Ghost Starbuck"!
I think you're right about these Cylons being different, but how old can they be? Man created the Cylons, and the first models were the ones we saw in the pilot... the ones that looked like Cylons from the original series. So there couldn't have been any Cylons made before them, right? How long have the Cylons been around... does anyone know?
With all that happened, my favorite moment was when Baltar was screaming at Gaeta about trying to stab him... "but you missed, didn't you? Butterfingers!!!" Awesome.
I don't think that was Starbuck in the human flesh. She, along with her ship, looked angelic. Her ship, which exploded two episodes ago, was spotlessly clean.
Hera is no longer the only cylon/human child if Tyrol is indeed a cylon. He and Cally have a son.
How the hell can the President share dreams with Cylons?
How can an Earth song be used to activate Cylons? I think there's so much more to the whole Tigh and company scenario. They may not be Cylons at all.
I wonder if a third party is at work here. I guess you could say the Final 5 are a third party, but it could be more than that. In the original series, there was a third party of "Angels" that helped Galactica. Could be based on that.
I forgot to mention... in the very last episode of the original Galactica, Apollo is hearing transmissions... not in his head, but from an old unused communications tower. In the last scene, he and some others are up there and they finally give up. As they leave the communications dome, the audience hears a transmission of the moon landing. I bet this is where they got the whole transmission idea from. It's pretty cool how they take isolated elements from the old series and twist them around. I wonder if the Burillian Nomen or the Eastern Alliance will show up?
Do human looking Cylons age? I don't think so, right? Then how can Tigh be a Cylon. Bill Adama has been with him for 20 years. He's seen a younger Tigh.
Of course the human-looking cylons age. Don't you remember in season 2.5 Episode Downloaded, Caprica 6 was in Sharons apartment and she was looking at a picture of Sharon as a kid with her supposed family? Plus the human cylons are identical to humans in almost every way. When Sharon gave birth to Hera, doc Cottle said to Sharon, "with all of your advancements, you people could have updated the plumbing" referring to the fact that they are just as flawed inside as humans are.
I still think they (Tigh, Anders, Tyrol, Tori and Starbuck) are the Final Five or at least the Five Priests of the temple. There is definitely a connection between these 5 Priests and the Final Five. Remember what you speculated Chris, when D'anna looked at that one Final Five, she knew who it was and was very apologetic towards it. "I'm sorry, we had no idea."
Tigh, Tori, Anders & Tyrol have to be supreme beings in some way, whether that's a cylon or one of the 5 Priests. All of them before realizing who they are made a comment that they needed to "get out of here" and "there's got to be a way out of here". It's like their spirit wants to leave their bodies. Since the Iona Nebula is supposed to be the roadsign to Earth, perhaps it is God's plan to have the Priests and the Chosen One to show the way. Starbuck was obviously an angelic manifestation of her former self. Perhaps by dying she obtained the consciousness of her now spiritual role, as one of the 5 Priests. Perhaps the Final Five do not download when they die, they just become angelic beings that can project themselves. The fleet lost all power when they reached the Nebula, which is possibly the home of the 5 Priests and as soon as Tigh, Anders, Tyrol and Tori admitted to themselves that they were cylons, the fleet regained power and the cylons showed up. It's like a higher being (God) is using them and Starbuck to help lead the fleet to Earth.
I always assumed that the picture of young Boomer was a fake. She was given that picture by the cylons to reinforce her fake memories. I think it was said somewhere that her memories of childhood were all implanted.
There's another problem with Tigh being a Cylon. I got this idea from a post on Aint It Cool News. The first Cylon war was the result of the mechanical Cylons gaining sentience and rebelling. For Tigh to be a Cylon, the "skinjobs" would have to predate the mechanical Cylons. That doesn't make sense, unless the skinjob Cylons have never really been Cylons at all. After all, we only have their word for it that they are an advanced model of the toasters - what if they're lying? That would be pretty interesting.
How about this for a theory (I've been thinking WAY too much about this)? We've always asummed that the mechanical Cylons created the "skinjobs". What if a third party created them? What if that third party were Earthlings? Earth would have to be pretty far advanced at this point, but the final 5 could be from earth.
Looks like Ron Moore gives A LOT of info in this interview. Answers many of the questions pretty bluntly...
http://tinyurl.com/3yv6o3
Well I got one thing right, Lee will lose sight of Starbuck and the viewers will be left wondering if he actually saw her or not. Knew they couldn't answer that mystery right away.
I think it would be awesome if Ronald Moore gave us a reveal that give a substantial reason to why the humans must die, which puts the final four legitamitely on the side of the Cylons, giving the viewers a question to whether rooting for the Humans should be a foregone fact. This show has always been a morality play and we're starting to see the human race crack with gaeta lying.
Should definitely be interesting. Does sure make it sound like next season could be the end.
Here's a quote from BSG's composer. I found on anoter blog :^)
"I happened to catch Ron Moore in the hallway at Universal and, in a brief conversation, got everything I needed to know. I learned that the idea was not that Bob Dylan necessarily exists in the characters' universe, but that an artist on one of the colonies may have recorded a song with the exact same melody and lyrics. Perhaps this unknown performer and Dylan pulled inspiration from a common, ethereal source. Therefore, I was told to make no musical references to any "Earthly" versions, Hendrix, Dylan or any others. The arrangement needed to sound like a pop song that belonged in the Galactica universe, not our own."
Many of the questions I had immediately after the episode have been answered in interviews and blog quotes... but I still need to study up on the BSG mythology, because somewhere along the lines I've confused aspects of the original series with aspects of the new series.
The thing is, I'm so invested in these characters, and the execution is so great, I'm not trying to unwrap the mystery as I watch this show. Shit, the scene where Tigh, Anders, Tory, and Tyrol walk into that room, with the slow motion buildup preceding and the cranked up music when they get there...and then their reactions! Fracking priceless. Tigh's "Whooooaaa..." is an instant classic.
I've rewatched the final 15 minutes of the finale twice since it aired (sad, I know)...which shouldn't diminish how great the courtroom scenes were... Adama Sr pushing Jr to answer questions on the stand. Baltar's "Oh Felix, what are you doing..." and "Butterfingers!"
Awesome. Best show ever.
Next episode in 2008?! I wasn't planning on living that long... guess that puts my plans on hold...
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